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Decision on Lina Joy's case next Wednesday

PUTRAJAYA: Next Wednesday, the Federal Court will deliver its decision on the appeal of Lina Joy against the Court of Appeal’s majority ruling two years ago, which ruled that the National Registration Department director-general was right in not allowing her application to delete the word “Islam” from her identity card.

Lina's solicitor Benjamin Dawson confirmed the date of decision today.

On July 3, last year, Chief Justice Ahmad Fairuz Sheikh Abdul Halim, Chief Judge of Sabah and Sarawak Justice Richard Malanjum and Federal Court judge Justice Alauddin Mohd Sheriff reserved their judgment to a date to be fixed.

Lina, 42, was born Azlina Jailani to Malay parents. She was brought up as a Muslim but at the age of 26 decided to become a Christian.

In 1999, she managed to change the name in her identity card to Lina Joy but her religion remains as Islam.

On April 23, 2001, the High Court refused to decide on her application to renounce Islam as her religion on grounds that the issue should be decided by the Syariah Court.

It also dismissed her application for an order to direct the department to drop the word “Islam” from her identity card.

[The Star Malaysia Online]

Me : Finally the result is coming out. After about one year since she (Lina Joy) appealed for her case, there's been many rumours by both sides of the party, or perhaps it is better to unify them as a new pack of people, the havoc-creators, for nobody knew who started the rumours first, but it was surely done for the sake of raging up both sides of the parties, the ones who are clearly against the appeal of Lina Joy, the concerned Muslims (including me), and the ones who are clearly got their backs on Lina Joy, a.k.a the 'liberalists' and socialists.

But for whoever wins, it will surely be a big loss for the other. If the Court's decided not to approve her appeal, one thing for sure that the DAP will use this issue for their own sake. Well, they are socialists for God's sake, any issue which they can use against the current government will surely be raised up, even in the Parliamentary, even for issues which concerns the Batu Gajah MP. Until now they have not kept silent and is still demanding further actions taken, even after the sexist MPs made a public apology, though there are this and that in the public apology, if you get what I am trying to say.

If the Court approve her appeal, perhaps it will be the worst which has yet to come. Maybe even another May 13 ( Please be reminded that I am not approving such things, and I am against such things, as I would gladly be the first one to stop such things from happening). This will surely tarnish the image of Islam Hadhari, whereby our very own Prime Minister was boasting about our great image as an Islamic nation. Hey, what kind of Islamic nation allows apostasy who denounces Islam and converted to other religion? It is surely not in the rule of Islam, thus Malaysia is surely not an Islamic nation, but just a nation with majority Muslim in the country, and taking several parts of Islam to be implemented in the governance, even though each and every Muslims is aware of Al-Baqarah:208 where it is stated that one should take Islam as a whole.

For whatever the outcome is, one thing is for sure, our Prime Minister and his puppets is going to have a bitter day.


Mark McDee said...

Hi krongkrang,

I can understand why you are concerned if Lina Joy is allowed to declare herself a Christian. I think you need to remember that she already is a Christian and is not a muslim. She does not beleive in that faith. She has made that decision wheather you agree with her choice or not and you cannot force a person by law to believe something such as a religion. God gave us free choice to choose. You must allow people to exercise that choice as God created them to.

Wouldn't you rather know that people who had Islam as their religion on their ID Card, had that their because they truly beleived in Islam? And not just because they had to by law?

Kind Regards

krongkrang said...

Thanks Mark.

Freedom of religion is a must be, everywhere. Even Islam promotes freedom of religion, where in one of the most significant event throughout the Islamic and world history, when Saidina Umar Al-Khattab conquered the land of Palestine, he allowed the Jews to live there ever after, happily.

But, in Islam, there is just some things which are not to be taken lightly. One of that is denouncing Islam. In Islam, apostasy is not an option for any Muslim. Any apostates, according to the Sharia Law, must first be given time to renounce back Islam, or else, is killed. That's it.

It might sound horrific, but it is not. That is the dignity each and every Muslim bears in his body, mind and soul. In the eyes of a Muslim, to be a Muslim is a proud thing to be. The only problem which is happening now is lack of Islamic education and knowledge, which is making the Muslims youngsters nowadays unaware of how important Islam is to them anymore.

For instance, in Lina Joy's case. Why in the first place she denounced Islam? She said that it was because she never performed her prayers, never get to know what Islam is all about. If, in between those time line, she had been taught with proper education of Islam, things probably would not be this way.

Accepting the appeal, in my own opinion, is like believing that the human law is above the God's Law, which is supposedly in Islam, unchallenged.

Mark McDee said...

Islam must really be a terrible faith if the only way they can keep members is by forbidding them to leave, and either putting them in jail, or killing them, if they do not stay.

bakaq a.k.a ~penarik beca said...

Mark McDee

Will you allow your children to disown you?

I hope you will. If you dont, you must be a really terrible father/mother.

Will your mother allow you disown her?

I really she will. If she doesnt, she must be a really terrible mother!

krongkrang said...

hey Mark, then what about heretic in Christian? or even the so-called killing of Jesus Christ (though Muslims believes that Jesus Christ was taken to heaven by Almighty God Allah s.w.t) by the Jews ?

The only problem is that your religion changes with time, but not Islam, as Islam is relevant till The Last Day. Yours, however, kept on changing with the needs of human s? Why such changes if religion is to make us feel humble, feel as a slave to a Master, The Almighty God ? Heh.

Mark McDee said...

Hi bakaq.

At some stage your children grow up and you have to allow them to make their own choices in life and love them all the same. You cannot control them all their lives. You need to let them choose their future partner, you need to let them choose their career. You also need to let them choose their own beleifs after teaching them what you beleive is right. However at the end of the day, IT IS THEIR DECISION, NOT YOURS. YOU CANNOT LEGISLATE RELIGION. Its between them and God or Allah. Allah does not give you permission to persecute others for their decisions. Again, its between them and Him. They answer to Him for their actions not mere man.

And Krongkrang, I feel the same about Christians, Its up to the indervidual to decide if they want to be a Christian, not their parents or any government legislation.

And lets keep the discussion to about 'choice' I am sure we can both think of times in the past when Christianity, Catholism, Islam, Budism, etc etc have failed humanity by force. We are not discussing what religions have done wrong in the past. We are discussing if people should be able to choice themselves what they beleive.

Kind Regards

Anonymous said...

What a sad day for Malaysia. The court verdict against Lina Joy has destroyed her bid to have her religious choice be seen as a matter of personal conscience rather than a state imposed obligation. Whilst the angry young men rejoice and shout “Allah-o-Akbar”, the Muslim religion again trumps the constitution and provides yet another early indication of the cracks forming in this previously rights based democracy.

This verdict and other sad cases such as that of Subashini Rajasperhaps, may mean that the country’s tourist promotion board needs to rework its “Truly Asia” campaign. Perhaps now they need to market as ‘Malaysia truly Arabia’. Actually the government sometime back removed its English street names so it should be no problem for them to re-brand KL as the centre of “ASIARABIA” and perhaps they could call it ‘Riyadh Lumpur’. Oh yes and of course Putrajaya could become Meccaminor.

Now get the tune in the head and its… Malaysia…. truly Arabia… yessssirrrr sounds great.


krongkrang said...

Hmm.. another attack on these Malay-Arab sentiments. Wahhabism, you say? Where did you guys get all the information ? Oh yes, the Western. Oh no, not the Western, the 'Globalizationers'. Haha.. pity you believe in them